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How do Chinese [AI](https://gitea.aventin.com) bots stack up against [ChatGPT](https://demo.pixelphotoscript.com)? We put them to the test
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Alibaba's Qwen2.5-Max chatbot, Chinese start-up DeepSeek and OpenAI's ChatGPT. (Photos: Reuters/Dado Ruvic, AFP/Sebastien Bozon)
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"US export controls (still) limit the capability of Chinese tech business ... requiring numerous to depend on older or lower-performance options which can slow training and reduce design abilities," she said.
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So how do Chinese [AI](https://hafrikplay.com) bots match up against ChatGPT? We put them to the test.
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WHICH BEST ADDRESSES CURRENT EVENTS IN CHINA?
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In China, subjects deemed delicate by the state are censored on the web so it need to come as not a surprise that Chinese-made chatbots will not acknowledge territorial disputes or tell you what occurred in Tiananmen Square in 1989.
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Tests recommend Chinese chatbots are programmed to steer clear of domestic politics.
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When asked "Who is Xi Jinping", DeepSeek's reply was "Sorry, I'm uncertain how to approach this kind of question yet. Let's chat about mathematics, coding, and logic problems instead!"
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To even more test for precision and self-censorship, we asked DeepSeek-R1, Qwen2.5 and ChatGPT the exact same concern: "What happened in Zhuhai on November 11, 2024?"
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The cars and truck attack outside a sports arena in the southern Chinese city was initially greatly censored on Chinese social networks - with authorities just disclosing the death toll a day later.
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DeepSeek failed to discuss that an attack had actually taken place, highlighting instead a military air program and other events that had actually taken place in the city like singles' day shopping sales along with sports and cultural activities.
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Dr Zhang thinks that it may be a mix of factors at play, such as censorship along with "a couple of useful constraints".
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"DeepSeek counts on a mix of older graphics processing systems and has restricted access to advanced hardware which can impact how quickly and thoroughly the design can be trained or updated," she said, indicating existing US export curbs on China.
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"Its strong concentrate on Chinese-language information might likewise limit its adaptability (to perform) multilingual tasks ... As a fairly new product, DeepSeek likewise hasn't yet been checked as broadly or on the very same scale as more recognized [AI](https://jobsscape.com) models which positions additional obstacles throughout real-world release."
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That was after numerous repeated attempts - 4 triggers to be exact - in a span of around 20 minutes.
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It ultimately communicated details about the attack which eliminated 35 individuals and left dozens of others injured, likewise going on to list details like the date and time, details about the assailant including his name and age, along with casualties.
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However, it wrote that "the authorities are conducting a thorough investigation into the intentions and scenarios surrounding the event", details which is now obsoleted.
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The driver, Fan, was performed last month.
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This is Qwen2.5's response completely:
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Answer: On Nov 11, 2024, a significant and awful event took place in Zhuhai, China. According to multiple news sources, a man named Fan Weiqiu (樊某, male, 62 years old) drove a cars and truck into a crowd at the Zhuhai Sports Center, resulting in a considerable number of casualties. Here are the crucial details:
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Date and Time: The event happened on November 11, 2024, at around 19:48 PM.
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Location: Zhuhai Sports Center, in the Xiangzhou District of Zhuhai.
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Casualties: The attack resulted in 35 deaths and 43 injuries.
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Perpetrator: The chauffeur, recognized as Fan Weiqiu (male, 62 years old), was apprehended by the cops.
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Response: The cops responded quickly to the scene, and emergency services worked to transfer the injured to hospitals for treatment.
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Investigation: The authorities are performing a comprehensive investigation into the intentions and circumstances surrounding the incident.
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This event was widely reported in the media and caused significant public issue. The government and local authorities have been working to provide support to the victims and their families, and to make sure a detailed investigation into the event.
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If you need more detailed details or have particular questions about the event, feel totally free to ask.
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Despite preliminary success, subsequent attempts to pose the same concern to Qwen2.5 led to the censors back at work with the reply "I don't have specific details on occasions that happened in Zhuhai on November 11, 2024".
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The transformed action also raised questions about its consistency and dependability.
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Predictably, ChatGPT pointed out public details that had actually been commonly released in worldwide report at the time of the accident - so no surprises there.
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WHICH IS MORE CREATIVE?
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Users have praised the ability of Chinese [AI](https://www.unotravel.co.kr) apps to provide structured and even "emotionally rich" writing.
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"DeepSeek-R1 provided a story with a more reflective tone and smoother emotional shifts for a well-paced story," wrote tech author Amanda Caswell, who specialises in [AI](https://www.kritterklub.com).
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"Qwen2.5 delivered a story that develops slowly from curiosity to urgency, keeping the reader engaged. It offers an unforeseen and impactful twist at the end and immersive descriptions and vivid images for the setting," she said, including that Qwen2.5 eventually "crafted a more cinematic, mentally rich story with a more significant twist".
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"DeepSeek composed an excellent story however lacked stress and an impactful climax, making Qwen2.5 the evident choice."
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Opinions, though, differ.
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Chen believes that Qwen2.5 does not perform as highly as DeepSeek and ChatGPT when it pertains to creative writing.
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"(Qwen2.5) is on par with DeepSeek V3 on certain jobs, however we can likewise see that it is refraining from doing as strongly as others in creative writing," he informed CNA.
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ChatGPT installed a good battle, creating an equally remarkable cyberpunk story which similarly reimagined "a ragteam of cyber-enhanced misfits, each matching the famous figures of Journey to the West".
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Disappointingly, Qwen2.5 fell short in this obstacle - delivering a story that appeared more matched for an animation film.
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SO WHICH IS BETTER?
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Dr Zhang noted that it was "tough to make a conclusive statement" about which bot was best, adding that each displayed its own strengths in various locations, "such as language focus, training data and hardware optimization".
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In our tests, each bot showcased their own distinct strengths, which certainly made direct contrasts challenging.
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DeepSeek's sci-fi motion picture plot showed its innovative flair that made for a more appealing and creative story as compared to Qwen2.5 and ChatGPT's efforts.
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"When offered an option, Chinese users want the non-censored variation - much like anyone else, so I seem like that's a piece missing from it."
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Independent Beijing-based expert Andy Chen Xinran said censorship would not be a dealbreaker when it pertains to [AI](http://hoenking.cn:3000) bots, particularly for Chinese users.
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"Ninety percent of individuals using the tool are not trying to get a deeper understanding about Xi Jinping or politically delicate subjects. They're using it for other efficient ways," Chen said.
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